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February 06, 2013

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txrenegade

Excellent explanation as always Major. Those of us who know firearms have tried to explain to the liberal unwashed (sometimes literally unwashed) that a semi-auto only fires once when the trigger is pulled, but they do not want to hear. My wife is a psych nurse with 25+ years experience in psychiatric assessment. The reason the behavioral health issues are not to the forefront is because the individual states determine the criteria for involuntary commitment (and that ranges from 'someone' stating the subject person is bats**t crazy to swinging from the chandelier with a machete in one hand and a firearm in the other). The biggest problem with the mental health aspect is the HIPPA laws block any sharing of medical information. Next comes the person's civil rights and privacy issues, after that is getting the diagnosing agency/person to be willing to state legally that the person is mentally unstable. Now some are pretty obvious, but those weren't the ones pulling all the mass shootings. As my wife will tell you, one person can pass all tests/observations and be as 'sane' as the next - only to wig out two minutes later, or the reverse, be hanging from the ceiling, only to be as laid back as William F Buckley Jr when the assessment person arrives.

The biggest problem, and one that is NOT mentioned is the use (or non-use) of psychiatric prescription drugs. By all acknowledgements, Lanzo had a history of behavioral problems of some type. Besides the fact that the 'assault weapon' non-use is being buried by the LSM, as are the autopsy reports on the caliber/type of the wounds, what type of psych drug medications were found a) at the house, b) in the treating doctor's file, c) in the drug scan at Lanzo's autopsy? Psych drugs require ramp up and ramp down times that can make the patient unstable. If Lanzo quit taking his prescribed medication, it would have had an adverse effect on his mental state. Add another scenario, and I'll talk of my own history - I have a CHL, a semi-auto pistol I purchased legally at a gun show from a FFL licensed dealer who performed a background check (I had to wait an hour for the bg check to clear) before I could pick up my purchase. Recently, I began taking Chantix to quit smoking - Chantix is a prescribed psychiatric drug that requires a ramp up to become effective - it also has numerous detrimental side effects for some people that include increased aggression, depression, and homicidal /suicidal thoughts (Chantix's actual medical name 'varenicline' was originally an anti-depressant that was found later to aid in smoking cessation). What to do - does my MD (MD's are grossly underqualified to make psychiatric assessments)report me? Do they come and confiscate my pistol? At what point do I become a 'danger to self and others'?

Maj Pain

Great addition Tx, THANKS!

Dave


txrenegade, great discussion and clearly explained to
we sane people in America that treasure the second amendment
and love our freedom.
I own a M1 Garand made in 1940 and I have run seven, 8
round clips through it in just under a minute. I suppose I
could get faster than that w/ more practice and it's not
the fire volume of a modern weapon but it was the premier
assault weapon of it's day.
I'd better shut up or some lunatic lefty "legislator"
may try to ban Garands also.

Darkwater

I still maintain that, as far as an actual military definition is concerned, practically the only real assault weapon is the Kalashnikov (family).

1) The rear sight is forward of the bolt (don't stop & take careful aim -- assault!)

2) The bayonet is cruciform or dagger (you can only thrust with the thing, not stop & fight it out -- assault!)

3) The selector switch goes first to automatic fire, then to semi-automatic fire (assault!)

All mention of an assault rifle in the press is strictly political, & therefore deceptive, if not stupid.

Jason Light

The problem is that the law is not equally implemented to everyone. For me, gun should be regulated. Making sure that the handler is responsible and not influenced of anything that can cause lives. The Obama example above, makes me think of a line from star wars, saying, "what if the democracy we know no longer exists?"

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