St Patrick’s Day began early with temps of 32 and wind chill creating temps into the high teens and 20s. But the night before at Walter Reed Hospital, snow covered the ground and Troop supporters out numbered the “Pinkos” 3 to 1 and of course they left early because it was too chilly for their tootsies.
When I arrived at the Viet Nam Memorial at 0930 there was easily 9,000 supporters there and maybe 500 “idiots” milling around. Then one of “them” handed me one of their prefabricated mass produced “traitor” signs as if I wanted to carry the shit stick, I broke it over my knee and threw it to his feet. He got the point.
Although there was no way anyone was getting close to the Wall we had it along with every other monument in the area covered with a squad (10-12) Patriot Guard, etc etc supporters. You would have thought there was special on prison tattoos from all the ink on the bikers in the crowed and there were at least 10 different sets of motor cycle gang colors in the crowed (glad they were on our side). The Park Rangers had stretchers lined up on the side along with the 40 police cars, 30 horse mounted riot policeman and multiple ambulances. The “traitors” were your average skinny white kid with dread locks………..(WTF??) I don’t get that but only to out do them were the other Barnum Bailey Circus freaks in the crowed. I’m sure they made their Daddy’s real proud today….not. Before the traitors began their sheep herd movement to the Pentagon, another couple busses pulled up bringing their totals to about 10,000. Not bad since they were funded by numerous groups and had a year to plan it. On the other hand the Gathering of Eagles had less than 6 months to prepare, no funding and totaled 30,000.
It was profound when the Eagles began shouting “Where’s your flag?” to the traitors as they held up a couple hundred American flags and the “traitors held up everything but American flags. They had Iraqi, Kuwait, some sorry excuse of a bed sheet but no American flag. Doest that say it all?
I don’t mind their free speech. They can say whatever they like. Bitch & moan Blab bla bla which is what they pretty much did, but when you threaten to disgrace the memorials of men who have died ensuring you have that right, you are toast. Point blank. I am positive if the wind would have taken one of the traitor’s hats and blown it across the street and they chased it, they would be in serious trouble.
They day ended as the sheep began migrating to the Pentagon and laid their path to move over Memorial Bridge in DC. They were channelized and were faced with an unexpected hazing from the 30,000 as no one took the lead and they slowly grazed on.
Thank you to all of you bloggers who got the word out, Gathering of Eagles, Patriot Guard Riders from all over the States, Veterans and the thousands of supporters of all ages that came out to make a difference, you saved the monuments and the dignity of the men they represent.
(pics from MarkLevin)
Special hat tip goes out to GunnNutt, The Bells, Leta, Sammy D, Michelle Malkin and the Swift Boat Veterans who traveled far and near to make it personal!
OUTSTANDING!!!
Posted by: Snooper | March 18, 2007 at 04:27 AM
very good way of puttin it. i was with the anti war protesters and we marched to the pentagon my first rally and after a cupple hours of the speaches and rallying i see about 40 to 50 riot police all lined up on the brige. so i go over to the brige and i see one riot police with a fully loaded and fully automatic weapon looked to me like a m-16 and the rest had clubs and sheilds. also there were three canesters of tear gas the police were holdin. and iam standin there like what tha fuck isnt this a peace full march why tha fuck are u bringin m-16 sheilds riot gear clubs batons tear gas mace and handguns to a fuckin ati war peace march? i told the police man standin infront of me all he did was stand there. after like 5:00 the rally was dyin down and i was still facein the riot police by then it was only me and maby 20 other anti war marchers standin lined up opisite of the police. after a later the numbers got fewer and i turned my back and all of a suden i feel this hard plastic shove and police sayin move and they started shoven and grabbin me. i turened around and was like what tha fuck you have no fuckin right to do that bitch iam 15 u gonna be shoven on a 15 yr old how fucked up is that he just keept pushin me back so i just fuckin had it so i stopped were i was cuase they were marchin me down the hill from the side walk and we did have a right to be on that hill just the police were bein doughnut eatin fat ass pigs and keept marchin me down the hill usin brute force tha only way they can move me. wow what pussys. i told them to take all that gear shit of and to stop bein little bitches and then try to push me and she what happens i said ill knonk u tha fuck out i dont give a fuck who u are if iam gettin pushed i am puttin up a fight. they just keept marchin. i was like the last one left me and some other guy and ir took about 30 to 40 riot police to march me down a fuckin hill wow thats sad. they were in the way of the road i needed to take to get to tha metro i told them but they didnt listion. i asked a bunch of the riot police if they knew where the closet dounut store was cuase obviesly they do i see them fat fucks all the time at doghnut stores yea and this one dumb ass riot po po had his sheild backwords so it said stae police upside down i was lafighn my ass off i made fun of that mutha fucker for like an hour and later one po po said ur funny i was lyk o really haha fuck u pig showed him my middle finger little punk bitch walks away. and the tear gas guy was standin rite infornt of me holdin tha hose rite up near my face. i was like spray me bitch spray me they thought we were scarred of them cuz they had gas mask m-16 glocks handguns mace sheilds helmets knee shin foot arms chest back armor pads and big clubs yea they must be jokin okay those gas masks did not make me scarred at all i thought it was tha funnyiest shit ever they looked so fuckin dumb and those fuckend woden clubs wont do shit i could pick a stick up of tha ground and be just as equipted as they were! i said hey you need to join on our side bush is speending all your money needed for funding your weapons paydays, etc hes wastin it on the war no wonder why you guys have such shitty fuckin weapons and no fuckin lives i mean really go fight crime not innocent peace protsters who are unarmed. and iam only 15 yrs old and i see tha look on there faces after i said that they were stumped and thinkin hard. it was a hell of day i had a blast! my back hurts a lot becuase like 5 of the riot police sheild bashed me right into my fuckin back and when i turned around and sayid what tha fuck lil pussy as bitch 2 cops would grab me by the arm and one tried to snach me by my head/neck area but i puched that bitches hand away. i mean i am 15 i dont think they can do that shit and if so thats just fucked up cuz i was on the grass area were ur alound to be and they march down past our permitand try to move us back what tha fucks wrong wit this picture. hope to be at other ralleys
Posted by: spencer | March 18, 2007 at 05:38 AM
Spencer, you poor little thing! You are so correct that those big bad police should not have picked on you!! They should have gone to your house and arrested your parents for letting their stupid little kid out from under their rock! You should at least graduate from third grade before you think you can participate in a freedom of speech event. I do appreciate you letting us hear your viewpoint from the front however. Of course, it would be more valid if you had a point. Lets hear from you after you do your time in the military earning your right to have a point. Let us know when you get past that third grade...
Posted by: Marty | March 18, 2007 at 08:10 AM
Please, anyone that reads whatever it was that Spencer was trying to say, this is not our youth of today. My little Sarge is a fine example of that. I have a young one that sets forth what doing the right thing really means, and guess what? She is 13, can spell correctly, doesn't swear, she LOVES her country, she RESPECTS her country and the freedoms given to her, she RESPECTS authority, and she does many a thing, not to see what she can get out of it, but to do so because it IS the right thing to do.
She has involved many of her school mates to do the same, she has inspired many ADULTS to do the same. Spencer, when you can write a sentence that makes an ounce of sense, then you may come back and try to make a valid point. Keep up how you are and your future is looking as dimwitted as what you just made yourself out to be.
I don't get the media, I sat here glued to the TV yesterday just waiting to catch a glimpse, any glimpse of American's finally standing up and saying WE SUPPORT. Guess what? On all news outlets, I saw them do blurbs of the protestors, I heard them talk about an anti war rally, but I didn't see much in the way of the 'other side' I didn't hear them talk about the outnumbering of American Patriots that were there. I did however on I think it was FOX, interview ONE person there doing the right thing and he got all of 10 seconds. The next person they talked to, was in the Navy and opposed to the war, he got to talk on forever and ever. You would think, that finally the news would HAVE to show there are 2 sides. You would think with the anti protestors being so vastly outnumbered, they would HAVE to make mention, AT LEAST MENTION, that there were those there that support our troops, that support taking a stand in bettering the WORLD (not just America) I guess it is to positive of a thing huh?
Posted by: Sgt. Taylor B's mom | March 18, 2007 at 10:04 AM
Major
Thanks for your great posting. I wasn't home most of the day but searched the major news sites looking to see what happened. Very typical coverage. Only pictures of the morons and the same story shared by the media. Once the print photos come out about the story, I think there will be even more concrete proof of the bias. We're having to depend on the milbloggers like you Taco, and Gunnutt for the truth. Thanks for all you do.
Posted by: Janet | March 18, 2007 at 10:09 AM
Well done G! I'm not surprised that all of you and GOE didn't get the coverage we'd have liked, but thanks to you and other bloggers at least we got some good AAR. Should push for some interviews with Fox at the least. LOVE the picture at the top of your post!
BZ to all that were there standing tall!
Semper Gratus!
Posted by: gypsy | March 18, 2007 at 10:19 AM
Mental picture of you breaking the sign.... priceless!
Posted by: Donna, Los Osos, CA | March 18, 2007 at 11:32 AM
Great post, Maj! The sea of leather-clad veterans was truly a sight to behold. Those guys (and you, of course) were angry and let the little punks and 60's hangovers know that they were finally outnumbered!
It was a GREAT DAY!
Posted by: GunnNutt | March 18, 2007 at 11:33 AM
I, too, looked for coverage but barely saw any for the eagles. I saw a group with flags and knew that was the good guys! Thanks to all who went and represented! And thanks, Maj P, for breaking that sign in front of the anti-American--wish you had a picture of that! ;)
Posted by: linda s. | March 18, 2007 at 11:42 AM
Please defeat this leftist shit, please frakk us, movement from your midst.
My life as well as yours depend on it.
Posted by: KeesKennis | March 18, 2007 at 11:50 AM
Terrific post, Major!
Posted by: Karen I. | March 18, 2007 at 02:38 PM
Saw your pic on Michelle Malkin. Looks like you were having lots of fun.
Posted by: LL | March 18, 2007 at 02:56 PM
Major:
Thank you for the detailed report. Like all the others, I searched the online, print and television media for reporting - there was very little, and mostly screwed towards Spencer and his crowd.
Please resist the urge to pull his response as I think it is a good representation of the "quality" of folks that participate in those things. I found it interesting that throughout the diatribe, Spencer never spoke of any ideology or convictions he/she may or may not have - just there for the fun! Wow.
Posted by: Missy | March 18, 2007 at 03:57 PM
I guess it's no coincidence that most of the protesters signs are yellow?
Posted by: ysip | March 18, 2007 at 04:57 PM
Just because we don't support the war does not mean we are Anti-American. I just don't support the fact that my great-grandchildren will have to pay for it. Add to it that our economy can't handle the strain of the debt, we as a nation have gathered.
http://theroadtothehorizon.blogspot.com/2006/03/news-round-up-war-in-iraq-happy.html
Posted by: Freebird | March 18, 2007 at 08:48 PM
G, I can just see you now breaking that sign...I am lovin' that mental picture! :) I wish so much that I could have been there-but I am very proud that so many turned out to protect our monuments and show support for our military men and women. Great job on the reporting!!! I can always count on you for the REAL story.
Posted by: Kelli | March 18, 2007 at 09:47 PM
As usual, Major Pain, you are one fantastic Marine!! What a day!!!
This is primarily for "Spencer." I do not believe you were even present. I believe you made up everything you wrote. Why do I say this? Because I was there and saw all the police coming back from the Pentagon as we were walking across the bridge towards the Arlington Cemetery Metro Station. We actually waved at them, and thanked them. They smiled back.
Our little Spencer didn't realize that if he was on the bridge before the march, and was told to move, it's because no one was allowed there. And, if he was on the hill by the Lincoln Memorial, that was the area where the GOE had their permit, and I wouldn't doubt if the police made him move on!
It was a wonderful sight to behold when I saw the thousands of Veterans lining that parade route. I also found it interesting that the lunatic fringe, including the mythical Spencer, were only two lanes abrest and half way through, it was down to one lane. So, the turnout was really poor on their side.
Posted by: Navy Wife | March 18, 2007 at 10:19 PM
FRIST!
Posted by: haha | March 18, 2007 at 10:34 PM
I am so proud of all of you for protecting the Wall of Honor! They have done their time in Hell. May we NEVER allow that to occur in this country again. If y'all have a problem with the war.. go spit on a politician. But, by jiminy.. you BEST NOT turn your head towards one of our brave soldiers. EVER! I want MY country back! This PC b.s. is killing this country. Enough is enough. My AMERICAN flag CONTINUES to fly high from our house! If you want to march to end the war.. load up a boat or plane and go to Iraq and scream your head off!
Thank you for posting this wonderful blog!!
Posted by: A PROUD Texan | March 18, 2007 at 11:46 PM
Thanks for update. I caught all of about two seconds on CNN of the protest...that's about all I could stomach...all they could talk about was the variety of protesters and of course nothing about the great men and women that seems to have greatly out numbered them. I would like to thank all of you for being there when I could not, hopefully one day I'll be able to get out there to stand up and speak up for myself.
Posted by: VegasDe | March 19, 2007 at 12:10 AM
Great Job, Eagles,
Thanks for your service
Posted by: Rafi | March 19, 2007 at 03:58 AM
Outstanding!
A great day and I hope it showed MoveOn.Crapheads, ANSWER, and George S, that they have managed to help organize and motivate serious Americans who paid their own way to tell them ... the crap stops here.
Thanks to all of you and the Viet Vets who said ... No MoFo you ain't treating our kids the way you treated us.
Posted by: jim b | March 19, 2007 at 09:36 AM
*SALUTE*
Posted by: Cheryl Friend | March 19, 2007 at 10:36 AM
Great post. “ Thanks for your service”
Posted by: Mark | March 19, 2007 at 01:02 PM
How I wish I could have been there!! GREAT JOB GREAT POST
Posted by: Anita | March 19, 2007 at 02:02 PM
Great job, Maj Pain! Wish I could have been there, but the mental image of you breaking the sign will keep me grinning all day long :-)
Posted by: Barb | March 19, 2007 at 03:28 PM
Yes, Indeed!! Though an Army veteran, with many Marine friends-I can hear the word shit stick and have a great mental picture as well. Spew alert...I was having s cuppa joe! Eagles up! It was a great day!
Posted by: defendusa | March 19, 2007 at 05:15 PM
first: spencer larn hou tu spail! pleez?
second: freebird, yes actually, if you don't support the war on terror, you are in fact anti-american.
best bet - find another country to live in before the revolution, after it happens you will NOT be safe here.
Posted by: gar | March 19, 2007 at 10:50 PM
Great post, as usual Major. Saturday was a great day for patriots. I pray that we are able to take our country back from those who are doing their damndest to destroy her. As with everyone else, I enjoyed hearing your recounting of breaking the sign over your knee!!! That's the Major Pain we all know and love!
Posted by: Cheryl | March 19, 2007 at 11:22 PM
Simply said...I'm very proud of you.
Posted by: Gail Poesy | March 20, 2007 at 11:10 AM
Haaaaaaaaaa! This just in:
Study Finds One-Third in D.C. Illiterate
Mar 19 11:50 AM US/Eastern
WASHINGTON (AP) - About one-third of the people living in the national's capital are functionally illiterate, compared with about one-fifth nationally, according to a report on the District of Columbia.
Adults are considered functionally illiterate if they have trouble doing such things as comprehending bus schedules, reading maps and filling out job applications.
The study by the State Education Agency, a quasi-governmental office created by the U.S. Department of Education to distribute federal funds for literacy services, was ordered by Mayor Anthony A. Williams in 2003 as part of his four-year, $4 million adult literacy initiative.
The growing number of Hispanic and Ethiopian immigrants who aren't proficient in English contributed to the city's high functional illiteracy level, which translated to 170,000 people, said Connie Spinner, director of the State Education Agency. The report says the district's functional illiteracy rate is 36 percent and the nation's 21 percent.
Adults age 65 and older had the lowest literacy score of any group, the report found.
The District of Columbia Chamber of Commerce, which contributed to the report, said the city lost up to $107 million in taxes annually between 2000 and 2005 because of a lack of qualified job applicants.
So now I know for sure where Spencer lives.
Posted by: jim b | March 20, 2007 at 12:04 PM
Dear Major Bourland, my hero!
This post was incredibly revealing! Those who oppose the war on terror, and the military in general, don't know what they STAND for, or are able to, as in Spencer's case, write a complete, coherent sentence, void of expletives. Did he even graduate from Jr. High, let alone High School? A few years in the Marines would do him a world of good, and just maybe he would begin to understand what makes this country great and special.
Posted by: Tricia Miller | March 20, 2007 at 06:49 PM
Tricia,
Don't let that MORON spenser get to you ,there is always a few a/holes out there.Besides its gets to be kind of fun trying to decode what they are trying to write.
Don't worry honey , ther are more of us than them.
Posted by: big bro jim i | March 20, 2007 at 07:30 PM
How many of you started reading the ranting obscenity laced post, decided not to waste your time and scrolled on to better things without finishing it lol? That's how it is for the protesters... no one is listening and that's why they are having tantrums.
God bless America and the courageous troops who stand between all of us and the terrorists. Too bad the protesters don't understand that.
Posted by: ysip | March 21, 2007 at 07:56 AM
No one had any intention of defacing the Vietnam Veteran's memorial. No anti-war organization or individual even hinted at it. In over twenty years of anti-war protests in DC no protestor has ever messed with it. So why put out this bullshit lie that protestors were planning to deface it. To fool Veterans in attending a pro-George Bush/Dick Cheney rally. Has everyone in America so turned against this administration that the right needs to make up lies to get people to turn out. There are veterans that support this war; there are veterans who oppose it. This wasn't a "pro-troop" rally; it was a pro-George Bush rally. That's your right of course but be honest.
Posted by: Bill | March 21, 2007 at 09:24 AM
Bill, what drug are you on? Were you there? Did you see some of the home made "weapons" these people were carring (such as the cut out garbage barrels), did you hear what they were chanting, yelling and screaming? Think what you like - definitely your right but this was far from a George Bush/Dick Cheney rally. As a matter of fact I honestly never heard one person from the RIGHT side mention either of their names the entire weekend (WRAMC Friday night/Mall Saturday). This counter protest rally was in support of our troops (past and present) and their missions. Yes, there was mention of the national monuments potentially being defaced by those "peaceful" nerds just as they did to the capitol building in February but this was about so much more than that. I doubt you've gotten emails from deployed troops telling you how proud they are of you and the lefties. I've gotten several and every one touches me and make me PROUD to be on their team. Damn shame - real damn shame bozos like you don't get it but get to reap the freedoms our military provides and secures for us. Give it a rest Bill if you can't live in reality. Go troll somewhere else.
Posted by: Leta | March 21, 2007 at 12:50 PM
Thanks for being there! Great job.
Posted by: Agnieszka O. | March 21, 2007 at 12:57 PM
Bill - the only connection George Bush had to this rally is his position as Commander in Chief of the Armed Services. To that end, the troop supporters include him in that support.
Every veteran I talked to on Saturday was there to support the men and women who are currently serving in the military. They want this generation of warriors to get the respect that was so woefully lacking 40 years ago. All of them were determined to make their presence a statement of intent to protect the honor of being a Veteran and a Warrior for this greatest Nation on Earth!
BTW, how dare you question our truthfulness?!? Just for that, I'm calling you unpatriotic! 'tard.
Posted by: GunnNutt | March 21, 2007 at 01:12 PM
We came; we protected; we honored. It's the American Way.
Posted by: Sammy D | March 21, 2007 at 01:25 PM
Once again where is the evidence that protestors where planning to "attack" the memorial? Its never ever happened, and there have been protestors coming to DC for a long time. Unlike some, I actually like some evidence that back up my assertions. Like Sadaam Huseein had WMDs and was hooked up with Al Qaeda. If you are so concerned about veterans why weren't any of you at Walter Reed where wounded troops are being stuck in ratholes? I support the troops too, which is why I think its time to come home. Bush lied and mislead us about this war and dosen't help our country one bit. Supporting troops dosen't mean backing whatever any politician says who are the ones who order our troops to war. GOE and MAF aren't real veterans groups but a front for Bushies. America is with us when they want our soilders to come home from this disaster.
Posted by: Bill | March 21, 2007 at 01:58 PM
Thanks for the giggles Bill!!!!
Posted by: Sgt. Taylor B's mom | March 21, 2007 at 03:51 PM
As much as I try to find people who have permantly shut down their brain funny and will believe anything they are told, there are just too many of you wrecking our country to get a giggle. The Founding Fathers wouldn't find it funny either I don't think.
Posted by: Bill | March 21, 2007 at 05:10 PM
GN, I like your attitude! :)
Posted by: linda s. | March 21, 2007 at 05:34 PM
Bill, look who's beleieving everything the biased msm tells tham! Get a clue and unlock your brain!
Posted by: linda s. | March 21, 2007 at 05:37 PM
Now I have moved from giggles to chuckles. Imagine, standing behind your troops is ruining the country.....go figure.
Posted by: Sgt Taylor B's mom | March 21, 2007 at 06:32 PM
This is to Bill. Sir, when have YOU been to Walter Reed Hospital? I'll bet the answer is "never." It is not easy to get in to see the soldiers--I have tried. However, I have done whatever I could to support them by sending care packages through AnyMarine.com and writing letters through Soldier's Angels. Have you done anything like that? I'll bet not.
I was there at Walter Reed this past Friday night (with others who post here) just as I have been every Friday that I can make it. Sometimes, it is so bitter cold that I have no feeling in my hands and feet, but when I see the smiles on the faces of the wounded soldiers peering out into the night to see all of us wildly cheering them on, I know it was worth the misery.
As for the "proof" you asked for. Just look at what some of your compatriots did to the Capital steps. I, personally, put two and two together and it added up to TROUBLE when I heard that Answer and Code Pink were gathering at the Vietnam Memorial. I didn't have to have any further "proof" that if my husband and I were not there along with any other vets who wanted to come out, the chances were pretty strong that the same type of stunt would happen again.
As you have been told, this was NOT a Bush rally, it was a pro-troop rally ONLY. I have never been so proud of our vets in my life. They were young, old, active duty and retired. They were awesome and I was glad I was there to lend them my support as my husband served two tours in Vietnam.
It is obvious you do not have a high respect for our men and women in the service, but I'll bet you would be the first to scream for them to save you if you are ever under attack in this country. Gee whiz, maybe they'll just tell you to go protect yourself--if you know how.
Sorry to vent, but your kind of "support the troops" doesn't cut it with me.
Posted by: Navy Wife | March 21, 2007 at 06:33 PM
Ah Bill - I was at Walter Reed and the Mologne House on Friday as a matter of fact. While I don't live in the DC area this was not the first time I have spent MY money to travel to Washington JUST to go to WRAMC and the Mologne House. Additionally I often ship items the Wounded Warriors have asked for to people in the DC area to be delivered to WRAMC since we cannot ship direct there anymore. NEXT QUESTION????
Oh, when was the last time YOU were at WRAMC? Just curious.
Posted by: Leta | March 21, 2007 at 11:31 PM
Bill I am in contact with troops in both Iraq & Afgh. and believe me they appreciate our kind of support for the troops, not the protesters. You guys really rile them up. It seems to me you guys are way more into Bush Bashing then just wanting the troops home. Of course we would all love for them to be home, as the troops themselves do, but not before they have accomplished their mission. They say that repeatedly, but you and your buds don't want to hear that. The troops feel you are making their job much more dangerous and prolonged as it just encourages the terrorists, who know exactly how to use the media and except for Fox most of the media is only too happy to oblige them.
Posted by: Anita | March 22, 2007 at 12:57 AM
Bill, I too hang out at WRAMC on a regular basis and have many wonderful memories of current and past wounded warriors who have received miraculous care there. For you and anyone else who believes the MSM crap printed about WR - IT IS THE VERY BEST MILITARY HOSPITAL because of the professionalism and tireless care of the physicians and nursing staff. There are no "rat holes" into which any wounded warrior is "stuck".
Try getting YOUR facts straight before posting.
Navy Wife - YOU SAID IT, LADY! We had a lot of fun.
Posted by: GunnNutt | March 22, 2007 at 10:03 AM
Billy-
Look here at this post (proof) from your communist shit stain bloggers. They say to "bring paint to spray on the wall" (http://www.onemarinesview.com/one_marines_view/2007/03/eagles.html) Here is where the spew originated from. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1796457/posts?page=2#2. AND since you have my attention, I was hit with mortar rounds with poisonous gas in Ramadi, Iraq 2005 (You think there were no WMD??). So for you to continue to allow unreferenced vomit to come out of your mouth, make sure you have done your homework before you point your finger.
I also was at Walter Reed last Friday night in the falling snow (didn’t see billy anywhere) and we frequently are there to assist the wounded warriors when you haven’t even been there once but again, point your finger, perhaps at yourself for once. For you to come to this blog and not have you’re your shit in one bag is a mistake-Typical anti troop personality!!
Posted by: Maj Pain | March 22, 2007 at 10:23 AM
Well, my chuckles have left and in place is a proud smile. OOH RAH Major B and to the rest of you glorious supporters!
Posted by: Sgt Taylor B's mom | March 22, 2007 at 10:58 AM
Looks like Billy and Spencer took a little buck shot to the butt from Major Pain. Guess we shouldn't be seeing them here again soon. OooRah Major!
Posted by: sue | March 22, 2007 at 04:24 PM
Great post Major. Time for some humor. I remember you talking about mortar rounds falling when you would head for the john. I was talking to this Army Veteran the other day and he told of a buddy being in the port-a-can when it took a mortar round. Blew the thing over. The guy was some shook up, but he was not harmed. Now the funny part is that they put a brand new port-a-can in the exact same spot.
Posted by: texasdillo | March 22, 2007 at 06:39 PM
Haha! I do believe Billy boy has punked himself.
To Maj. Pain and the others who were able to be physically present to support our armed forces when I was unable, thank you!
I sponsor soldiers and send care packages, but that isn't the same as a physical presence at events such as this. So I tip my hat in gratitude to ya for doing what I was unable to do - just as our armed forces do for me 'round the clock.
I'm forever in your, and their, debt.
Posted by: Teabag | March 22, 2007 at 08:38 PM
Some idiot spewing crap on the Free Republic blog dosen't count as a real threat. It could very well been a right-wing provacture trying to get fools like you riled up.
I guess the Washington Post is such a commie paper in your view that it just made all that stuff up about Walter Reed. I think if George Bush and Fox News told you the sky was green you would scream and huff and puff that anyone who said the sky was blue was a traitor.
We are a Republic. That means there are different opinions Americans can express. Sometimes America has gone to war for good reasons with good leadership. Sometimes it hasn't. We are not infaliable. The Founding Fathers were an amazing bunch of folks not because they were god-like and perfect and thought that our government could never do wrong but because they gave a way to change course peacefully when our leaders took us astray. You have my opinion, you have yours and I will use my ability to change our government to get us out of this war.
Support the Iraq war and George Bush all you like. Its your right and I defend it. But when you scream that any one who disagrees with you is a traitor you are corroding our democratic system. Are John Murtha and Jim Webb rotten commie traitors too?
The problem with Vietnam was that politicians knew it was unwinnable. They just didn't want to be called "traitors" and "soft". We could have saved a lot of our soilders if Johnson had showed more courage and just got out earlier.
Posted by: Bill | March 23, 2007 at 09:34 AM
The major wrote (You think there were no WMD??).
So you think there is still WMD's in Iraq. Do you belive in UFOs and Santa Clause too? Hey I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn pal.
Posted by: Bill | March 23, 2007 at 10:50 AM
Bill, the Vietnam war wasn't lost by the troops, it was lost in the media and political world that didn't let the troops fight to win.
Same as now, you can't be PC and win a war against people with no compunctions on who and how they kill.
I'll keep listening to how the troops feel that are actually there or have been there, and yes many of them, especially the Marines, feel Murtha is a traitor.
Posted by: Anita | March 23, 2007 at 01:08 PM
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,129059,00.html?ESRC=dod.nl
Would this qualify as WMD???
Posted by: Sgt Taylor B's mom | March 23, 2007 at 01:21 PM
Bill you left one rotten commie bastard out. John Kerry.
Posted by: texasdillo | March 23, 2007 at 01:59 PM
OK Bill. You haven't answered my question-- what exactly have you done to support our troops? Name it.
Posted by: Navy wife | March 23, 2007 at 05:08 PM
"Bill, the Vietnam war wasn't lost by the troops, it was lost in the media and political world that didn't let the troops fight to win."
Bullshit Antia, total bullshit. The NLF was a seasoned guerilla army that that large segments of popular support. The French couldn't beat them and we couldn't either unless you suggest that we dropped a nuclear bomb and wipe out most Vietnamese. Name one way America could have "won" in Vietnam. We shouldn't been there in the first place. Just how did the media "hold back" America in Vietnam. By admiting publicly that we weren't winning anymore. By mentioning that we were illegally bombing Cambodia and Laos. Do you think politicians should do whatever they want without anyone crticizing them, I can find some country's where the media gave nothing but glowing reports of the nation's military action even when they were losing. Russians never heard a bad thing about their troops in Afghanistan and the they still lost.
I'm supporting our troops(besides sending care packages to my cousin in Afghanistan) by backing candidates who support more money for veterans and troops and wants us to get out of Iraq. No more waste of lives.
If that is all your Marine buddies can do is to call anyone who critizes Bush a traitor then go move to another country. How about North Korea, they shoot people who criticize their rulers. You guys can't handle real American freedom.
Posted by: Bill | March 23, 2007 at 05:22 PM
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,129059,00.html?ESRC=dod.nl
Would this qualify as WMD???"
Look knuckle head, when Bush was talking about WMD's he claimed that Hussein had nuclear weapons. You know the kind that can kill millions of people with one blast. Any idiot can eaily make chorline gas, and if you look at the body count of this particular attach it hardly counts as "mass destruction." I'm sorry but the Presiddet can't just make shit up just for an excuse to go to war.
Posted by: bill | March 23, 2007 at 05:28 PM
The war in Vietnam was lost by the protestors, negative newsies, and a Democtat Congress that defunded the war effort. The leadership of North Vietnam was ready to sue for peace as they saw they were loosing. They readily admit today that they were loosing. We did not loose in Vietnam. The crats just made us leave. Fast forward 30 years and another crat controlled Congress is going to loose another War. But unlike Vietnam where they just wanted us gone, the Jihadist wish us all dead and our way of life exterminated. Coming to a Mall near you-Jihad!
Posted by: texasdillo | March 23, 2007 at 07:13 PM
Hey Maj Pain,
Great job last weekend and to the boy wonder who wrote the first post, all I can say is "Do you kiss your Momma with that mouth?"
What a loser.
Semper Fi,
Taco
Posted by: Elvis in Iraq | March 23, 2007 at 07:14 PM
Oh, I am a knuckle head now? Well let me do my very best Curly shuffle for you......
Glad to read you think that it is OK to harm hundreds of people at a time with one bomb, let alone children. But as long as it wasn't millions, Bill says it is OK.
Posted by: Sgt Taylor B's mom | March 23, 2007 at 07:16 PM
"Glad to read you think that it is OK to harm hundreds of people at a time with one bomb, let alone children. But as long as it wasn't millions, Bill says it is OK."
Right, that's exactly what I said. You are truly such a knucklehead that you need a Moe to slap some sense into you before you show some comprehension.
As for you Tex. No, no and no. First off Vietnam was started by the Democrats, 2nd there is no evidence that the Vietnamese were ever planning of sueing for peace short of the unification of Vietnam under the Hanoi's leadership. I'm curious how it was the protestors and the media's fault. Maybye there were so many protestors because we were losing in war that we really shoudn't have been in the first place? If everyone stayed home and and the media was state controlled we could of won? Let me hear your revionist history?
The only coherent book that tried to prove we could have won basicly argued that if Vietnamization had been tried earlier, the south could have held out longer. Of course that still meant withdrawing most of our troops so I'm sure you reject that as "pro-commie".
On IRaq. If we withdraw with Iraqis start swimming over to get us. You know there weren't any Al-Qaeda people in Iraq before this war, but most insurgents are part of Shite or Sunni militas that will start going after each other(they already are) once we are gone.
Posted by: bill | March 23, 2007 at 07:30 PM
Well Bill, so far not one thing you have said is even worth TRYING to comprehend....
Posted by: Sgt Taylor B's mom | March 23, 2007 at 07:57 PM
Hey Bill,
Let's try this again without the politics. Our Soldiers volunteer to serve. They go where they are told to. I thank you for sending care packages to your cousin. This is Major Pain's website so I will not speak for him or any poster here. We are a family here. We are about supporting our kids, family members, and friends in harm's way. Most of the time we do not address the politics of war. Instead We try to concentrate on supporting our troops and each other. We do a lot of good. Most of us are middle class working stiffs or Military. We do not like to be side tracked by post that take away from our common interest. Major Pain has provided information that many of us can't find anywhere else. He has been our lifeline to our loved ones at war. CNN and even Fox do not tell the story we hear from our troops. We love our Major. And our troops. We get riled when people talk about defacing our war memorials or spit on a disabled vet. So for the sake of common decency, I ask you to move on to other boards that enjoy political debate. If you wish to support the troops and not the war, then please go to anysoldier.com and donate to our troops. Ask your friends to do the same. Most of us have enough stress waiting for 2 spiffy Marines to knock on our door. Please go away.
Posted by: texasdillo | March 23, 2007 at 10:21 PM
Pay no attention to Bill. He's a moron.
Maj, I wish I'd known you were there. I would have shook your hand and introduced you to my friend, John, a former Marine. I was proud to stand with my veteran brothers and show the commie bastards that not all Americans have lost their minds.
This was just the beginning. There will be more Gatherings of Eagles. You can count on that.
Posted by: antimedia | March 23, 2007 at 11:41 PM
WAR IS AN UGLY THING, BUT NOT THE UGLIEST OF THINGS. THE DECAYED AND DEGRADED SENSE OF MORAL AND PATRIOTIC FEELING WHICH ONE THINKS NOTHING IS WORTH WAR IS MUCH WORSE. THE MAN WHO HAS NOTHING FOR WHICH HE IS WILLING TO FIGHT, NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN HIS OWN PERSONAL SAFETY IS A MISERABLE CREATURE WHO WILL NEVER BE FREE UNLESS MADE AND KEPT SO BY THE EXERTIONS OF BETTER MEN THAN HIMSELF. -JOHN STUART MILL
Posted by: Sgt Taylor B's mom | March 24, 2007 at 09:58 AM
"When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse."
Osama Bin Laden, Kandahar, November 2001
Posted by: Sammy D | March 24, 2007 at 01:02 PM
Were the demonstrators going to deface the Wall?
For the huge majority, and the demonstration's leaders, almost certainly not -- the Left has learned some smarter tactics since Vietnam, and many of them are now pretending to be pro-soldier, which means, making the military ineffective by trying to bring it within the crybaby, victim culture they cultivate for everyone else.
However, it is notable that when the crazier elements at an anti-war gathering do something like burn the flag, the others do not intervene.
They don't like the flag much, as a senior editor of the Nation magazine admitted after 9/11.
I think the real "threat" to the Wall from the Left, was that they would go there in large numbers,"take over" the area, and symbolically incorporate it into their protest, to try to strengthen the "Vietnam = Iraq" equation with a powerful image linking the Wall to Iraq withdrawal.
As for whether Vietnam could have been won. Bill says there is only one coherent book that tries to prove this. Not so. If anyone wants a reading list on this I will be happy to supply one.
It is a debatable question, but the really interesting question is: if we could have won it, should we have?
The real difference between liberals and conservatives is that even if Vietnam could have been won, liberals and the Left would have been against winning anyway.
From the point of view of the Left, the right side won in Vietnam.
Posted by: Doug1943 | March 25, 2007 at 04:41 PM
Texasdillo
I appreciate your respectful tone and if the point of this site is to just support the troops as opposed to supporting George Bush and neo-con foreign policy thats fine and this is my last post. But "Gathering of Eagles" was very far from being "non-political" as are those on list who thing the John Murthas are nothing but traitors. In opinion you can be for this war and support the troops and you can be against this war and still support the troops. You can also support this war and not give a rats ass abotu those fighting it.
signing out
Posted by: Bill | March 25, 2007 at 08:42 PM
Thank goodness Bill has left us for greener pastures. Somehow I even doubt he has a cousin.
Posted by: Navy Wife | March 29, 2007 at 12:44 PM
Regarding the Vietnam War, before Pres. Johnson,another pres. from texas, lied about the Gulf of Tonkin attack, we only had a few hundred men in S. Vietnam to train the army.Pres. Nixon started the heavy bombing,but we couldn't bomb Haiphong harbor, because Russian ships were there, bringing war supplies of course. But we trained the S. Vietnamese army for 10 or 12 years, left them with helicopter gunships and other weapons. And THEY still lost the war, WE DIDN'T!! Johnson should never had gotten us into that war, But Pres. Nixon should have let us invade N. Vietnam, and let us bomb the hell out of those Russian ships. Unfortunately we're fighting this Iraqi war the same way, fight in one city and drive them out, then go to another city and do the same thing. Then leave and go some where else and do the same thing,and the insurgents keep moving around ahead of us.And like the new General says, we can not have a military victory there.
Posted by: NYVETERAN | April 11, 2007 at 03:30 AM
Whether educated or not, Americans generaly have a serious problem with honesty. Do you not think it was shady for the Bush Administration to allow the American public to think the war in Iraq was about terrorism? It is obvious that the United States has oil interests in Iraq, especially since its allies depend on oil exports from the Middle East. Although I cannot speak for our "highly esteemed" leaders, I can express that it was pretty smart to use the state of confussion after 911 to make the United State's top priority military spending. Whether United States involvement in war can be validated or not, the truth is that the United States economy is dependant on war. If the war were to end now, the question would be which country will be next?
-Also, something to ponder:
why did the US not place trade restrictions on Iraq like it is doing with North Korea?
It's working with North Korea so far, so why not?
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