What do service members do?
Have you ever thought that or asked that? Some may have one idea in their mind about what service members do and others have something totally different. I began college and studied aerospace science and meteorology to assist my education in becoming a commercial airline pilot. After obtaining my private pilots license and perusing my instrument rating, I became interested in the Marine Corps. Working for United Express I applied for an USMC officer slot. To my surprise the response was we don’t need any 21 year old males to join our program, we have a list a mile long of them.
One of the only ways to be more competitive to enter the Marine Corps during Desert Shield/Storm was to enlist in the Marine Corps. That’s what I did in 1993. I became “Private B” and worked my up to Corporal before applying for again for the officer program and being commissioned in 1996.
To my surprise there are a lot of people out there who think our services are made up of people who couldn’t find a job else where and then turned to the military. Wow, did that surprise me. Especially, when my radio operator (a Corporal) back in 1997 was a college graduate and decided to become a Marine to serve his country. Since Sept 11, many highly qualified Americans have joined to serve and today is the foundation of our great military service. Another example is a very successful NY stock trader who I served with. He had plenty of money and a great career, but after Sept 11, he felt compelled to make a difference and now he fought along with me in Afghani and Iraq
I guess I was taken back when recently a friend completed his basic military training and his girlfriend’s folks had the impression of “Is that all you’re going to do with your life?” Now our Americans of all ages are teaching Iraqi’s democracy. They are writing history instead of reading it. Yes, many are young but don’t mistake their youth for ignorance or that they were desperate in choosing a career. They are taking a civilization and showing them freedom. I couldn’t think of a greater role in history than that.
Semper Fi
For all those out there that answered the question:
“Is that all you’re going to do with your life?”
Capt B








Thank you!
Posted by: Bridget | August 21, 2006 at 12:54 PM
Well, for me it was either JAG or my backup plan of crackwhore trainee.
Posted by: Army Lawyer | August 21, 2006 at 01:02 PM
Thats been my experience as well -- and that goes back many years. I remember in 1972 taking a poll aboard my ship the USS Antelope (PG-86)and discovering that the average educational level of the crew was 2 1/2 years of college. We had more enlisteds with degrees than we had officers.
Posted by: 74 | August 21, 2006 at 01:19 PM
Now then, the armed forces ARE full of many who had fine careers outside of the military and those people are to be commended for their sacrifice. However, I also commend the ones who had not yet found their path in life and joined because they did know what else to do. There is no shame there.
I think the big problem is with the people who believe that a military career is somehow "less" important than that of a banker, stock broker, doctor, lawyer, or any civilian career. The person who is lacking in character and status is the one who actually asks that question. They are the sort who derive their superior feeling by trying to make others feel inferior. Feel sorry for them, they are weak.
Sam
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Posted by: Samantha West | August 21, 2006 at 01:22 PM
Anyone that's in the mil that's asked that question should turn it back on the asker.
"I've played a very small part in giving freedom to approximately 50 million people."
"What have you done with YOUR life?"
Stupid civilians...
Posted by: thebronze | August 21, 2006 at 02:03 PM
I know that those in the military have done more with their lives then I have accomplished in mine and at half my age! Thank you for your service in protecting our freedom and bringing freedom to others!
Posted by: Anna | August 21, 2006 at 02:26 PM
"Oh, I have only worked at the State Department, the Commerce Department, on Capitol Hill, graduated from a top 20 law school, and am an attorney for a top 15 corporation. And I serve in the US Air Force."
I despise so many of our lefties who claim our military is full of the dregs of society- in order to salve their own conscience over not serving.
Posted by: Lt Fishman | August 21, 2006 at 03:04 PM
Unfortunately I have faced a lot of people who ask “what are you going to do when you get out of the military?” as this is my fill in the gap job before I get a serious job. I tell them, through rocks at joggers! Because I’ll be retired!! OR “Im so sorry you had to go to Iraq /Afghani”…….Hello, that’s why I became a Marine, support and defend the constitution…….ring any bells????
Posted by: Capt B | August 21, 2006 at 03:19 PM
Amen to that skipper. The line forming for all the Marine Officer programs stretches way out there. My son Dave was lucky enough to get a seat on that bus as a college freshman. He successfully completed PLC 1st increment.
Before he got to the 2nd increment, he was unlucky enough to hurt his legs and loose his seat.
When his legs mended he tried to get into an OCS class. Yup! Glut of hard charging volunteers. Classes booked up for months
Half way through his MBA program, he lost patience said screw the wait and enlisted in the Army on a 5 year SF contract. Friday he graduates from Army AIT. He will begin jump school on the following Monday.
He has found a home. His rank is E-4 Specialist.
Anyone who thinks everyone in the military is some kind of looser, is a rejecter of truth and anything else that takes away from their "Hate Bush" focus.
God Bless the military and God Speed.
Posted by: jim b | August 21, 2006 at 03:22 PM
Hmmm. I haven't really run into that very much - but I am a Guardsman, so I usually get asked "how can you do that and your job at the same time" and not in any snotty or condescending way. Maybe it is just because I am lucky enough to live in the Midwest.
BTW - thebronze, "Stupid civilians" is no answer. If they don't know/don't understand - educate them.
Posted by: Major John | August 21, 2006 at 03:26 PM
Yes, I did reservists time and that was another beast all together. Usually it’s when I travel and feedback from people I meet is positive. However, when I heard these parents talking about this young Marine Officer it almost seemed that the young officer wasn’t good enough for their daughter.
Posted by: Capt B | August 21, 2006 at 03:49 PM
Excellent post CB. The truth is that those in the US military are the best our country has. You can do anything you want in life and choose to serve. Thanks for what you do.
Posted by: | August 21, 2006 at 03:59 PM
My young Marine could have gone to college or to tech school. The funds were there, his grades were good enough.
But he enlisted a couple of months after his 18th birthday, at the start of his senior year in HS, and never looked back. Four years of MCJROTC, Cadet Major, XO of the Cadet Batallion, Cadet of the Year, Silent Drill Team, Colors and Ceremony team ..... The Corps was this boy's life already before he ever raised his hand.
I wonder if the people who think "dregs" have ever bothered to see what the qualifications to join the military ARE: High School diploma, ASVAT, letterman quality physical conditioning, no disqualifing criminal history. The enlisted ranks are the cream of the crop, not the dregs.
(Am a just a little proud of my Lance Corporal? - heck yes!!!)
Posted by: Karla (threadbndr) | August 21, 2006 at 04:01 PM
Look at our very own realtime example of one who "gets it" - Mrs. 455 who has shown nothing but pride and encouragement for her son Brian during his difficult decision about which military branch, and knowing he's going off to boot camp when he graduates. She's become one of my newest heroes and a true example a Great American.
Posted by: Sammy D | August 21, 2006 at 04:36 PM
Hell, I closed my successful business to go over and drive a truck in Iraq for KBR delivering supplies to the troops. Got IEDed a couple times and lit up with tracer fire also.
Posted by: Unkawill | August 21, 2006 at 05:41 PM
LOL, anybody saying that to a Marine is sooooooooo clueless!
Posted by: | August 21, 2006 at 05:44 PM
As soon as you're finished patting yourself on the back, Capt. B, you might want to ponder your complete gutlessness. For American military members to sit there and say nothing about the horrendous disaster that's going on in Iraq, and the terrible leadership that got us there, is an exercise in cowardice.
Contrast it with what's happening in Israel. Our lying scumbag of a so-called president might sit there and say Hezbollah lost the recent war in Lebanon, but there aren't a whole lot of Israelis who agree.
That includes people in the Israeli military. There is a growing groundswell among the enlisted ranks there to demand accountability from their leaders, both military and civilian, for the blunders in Lebanon.
That's what people who have integrity and courage do. They face the truth instead of trying to cover it up in phony, hollow, pseudo-patriotism.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/753164.html
Posted by: WW | August 21, 2006 at 05:49 PM
W.W. I am ignoring you, today.
Posted by: Karen I | August 21, 2006 at 06:34 PM
WW-Where you been? Last time you commented here you crawled back to me in an email to me apologizing and the like……..BUT since your back, Where have you deployed? Where have you saved lives? Where have you been shot at or hit?........Keep believing the so called "News" CNN (Communist News Network). Unless you have a destination/unit and time for any of the above (which I know you don’t from the last time I beasted you), anything you respond to here in the comments is a waste of cyber space. Get a clue and a life. Enough said. Next!
Posted by: Capt B | August 21, 2006 at 06:46 PM
Thanks Capt! Another great post and I was just gonna request some rock throwing at trolls instead of waiting til retirement:)
Posted by: Mrs. Diva | August 21, 2006 at 06:50 PM
Capt B, remember the story you posted about the Marine who wanted the docs to let him keep his severed arm? I'd like to use it to beat WW on the head!
It's a good thing the numbnuts are few and far between. The rest of us will go on KNOWING that you guys and gals rock! Semper Gratus.
Posted by: GunnNutt | August 21, 2006 at 07:00 PM
Ah, the beauty of the internet-where spineless people like WW can hide behind a computer screen instead of having to face you and say that, G. (like he actually would. HA) I don't say it enough, but I thank you and all our military members who do what 99% of the population can't or won't do! You're my heroes,and I thank the good Lord you decided to take that oath all those years ago and serve this nation. You're the best,bud!
Posted by: Kelli | August 21, 2006 at 07:15 PM
This afternoon at 4:30pm CST, my son, Brian, raised his right hand and took the oath. He will graduate from high school on Mother's Day 2007. He will leave for bootcamp on July 9.
I am unbelievably proud of him.
He flipped his top two choices and listed data systems admin analyst as his first choice and military intel as his second.
This morning, as he was going through MEPS, I had a lady I've known for 14 years come into my office and tell me what a horrible mother I was to sign the papers and allow my son to join. Basically she insinuated that I was sending him to his death. I was floored. I couldn't believe it.
It was a tough enough decision to decide to sign the papers. I only did so after talking extensively with Brian about the pros/cons of going into the military. I needed to know in my heart that he was doing this for him...something he wanted to do...instead of doing it for me because I am very pro-military. Just last Thursday, he and I went to dinner, and we talked again about this huge decision that he was about to make. He stoodfast. He was undeterred.
At 17, he made a decision that most people can't make or won't dare to make.
WW..I don't know how old you are or who you are, and I don't care.
But I hope one day that you will as much of a man as my son is at 17.
I am a PROUD MARINE CORPS MOM!
HOORAH!
Posted by: mrs455 | August 21, 2006 at 07:30 PM
Tell the warrior to let me know when he is out of boot camp. I got his back! You both are HEROES!
Posted by: Capt B | August 21, 2006 at 07:35 PM
Thank goodness for the men and women who are willing to sign up and do the hard work of protecting our country!
"phony, hollow, pesudo-patriotism"? What a jerk!
Posted by: linda s. | August 21, 2006 at 09:06 PM
mrs455, I thought about your son alot today just like I said I would. When someone wondered aloud to me that with the youth of today, what kind of future did we have have to look forward to? -surely, something akin to hell in a handbasket. I told about your son and reminded them of our troops and they definitely brightened their outlook some.
Posted by: Karen I | August 21, 2006 at 09:26 PM
Now ya'll be sure to give WW a good dose of hate because that's the only reason he slithers by the milblogs. It the only thing he understands. He is otherwise bankrupt. Even if he did have a good idea he'd step on someone else's dick before he could execute it.
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Posted by: Samantha West | August 21, 2006 at 09:32 PM
DANG IT!
I screwed up already!
It has been brought to my attention that I misspoke earlier!
I was told it's not HOORAH!
OOPS! My bad!
lol
Posted by: mrs455 | August 21, 2006 at 10:03 PM
Excellent post, Capt B. I've tried to educate several folks who had the opinion you mentioned - that our men and women just had nothing else going for them, or they wouldn't be in the military. Have to admit that you were more civilized about it than I usually am, though :) I tend to spray a little spit before I'm through with the "education".
Jimb, Karla & Mrs455 - Thanks to you and your sons!!
Posted by: MissBirdlegs in AL | August 21, 2006 at 10:06 PM
Haven't heard from dub-ya... dub-ya in awhile. Oops, guess you fergot to take yer meds again. Remember WW--- it's one in the morning, one in the evening. Get some sleep, take a shower, look for a job etc. I hear the Daily Koz is lookin' for a freelancer. Right up your alley, no experience required, just a great deal of irrational hatred. Patricularly if it's directed at the men and women of our armed services who are trying to make the world a better place. You'll fit right in. Just remember to smile and brush yer tooth. Good day.
Posted by: Beth | August 21, 2006 at 10:24 PM
Oh Crap...more calendars...signed by Capt.B and Taco...going to have to rob a bank if this keeps up...Good one Capt...
Posted by: Bridget | August 21, 2006 at 10:40 PM
I think anyone that serves our Country has made a most honorable choice, be it for a career or just an enlistment. For anyone to think there was nothing better...bah.
Thank you to all that have or are serving...and to those who've just made that commitment like Mrs455's and jim b's son.
(I'm ignoring WW, didn't even read past the first sentence. Honestly, what an ...)
Posted by: gypsy | August 22, 2006 at 12:18 AM
I just spent this past week with 14 wounded marines, soldiers, and a navy corpman (most were amputees) learing to surf here in Pismo Beach, CA. It was sponsored by OperationComfort.org. There are no words to describe these men. The most courageous people I have ever met. And,I've got to be honest, probably the most fun too....
When you are watching a game, and the coach puts in a guy that has the flu and a sore arm...and you think, "less than 100% this guy is still better then the rest!" That is like these guys. Our military men and women ARE the best of us. Even wounded, they are still the first string.I have never seen anything like it.
Semper gratus,
Donna
Posted by: Donna, Los Osos, CA | August 22, 2006 at 12:51 AM
We have been writing to men and women who are deployed for many years. I am always impressed with how educated they are. Having worked at colleges, I never saw the quality of writing skills, interest, education and pursuit of education, that I see in the military.
Thank you all.
Posted by: Flag Gazer | August 22, 2006 at 02:32 AM
Capt B, stop lying. For one thing, you call yourself a captain here but you're actually a corporal (cplm@artitumis.com) who's never served a day in Iraq. The content of my "apology" was that I don't hold junior elisteds and junior officers responsible for your Fuhrer's lies.
As for hiding behind anonymity, how about the author of this website?
The so-called Brave Ones around here don't have the least bit of semper or fidelis to the people who are being thrown away for absolutely nothing. For you, it's entirely partisan politics.
You couldn't care less about your country or what it stands for.
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 02:50 AM
p.s.: A little more on "Capt B" or "Cpl M" or maybe "Gomer Pyle." Hasn't been to Iraq, and his/her/its MOS is administrative. Yup, that's right. A brave USMC pencil sharpener. What a goddamned phony.
How does it feel to bless the deaths of OTHER PEOPLE, you damn coward?
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 03:07 AM
.........poor kitten, waste of cyber space, next.
Posted by: Capt B | August 22, 2006 at 06:58 AM
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS!
Great post, Capt. B! :)
Posted by: Navygirl | August 22, 2006 at 08:18 AM
I think joining the Marines is the best decision my son made. I am proud of my Cpl. & I will be traveling to Camp Lejeune this week for a visit.
God Bless Our Troops!
Posted by: Laura, Marine mom from Ohio | August 22, 2006 at 09:00 AM
WW, I missed you pookie.
BTW, where's that CV you promised me?
Posted by: Army Lawyer | August 22, 2006 at 09:41 AM
Just wanted to drop by and again send a HUGE thank you to all who are serving. That includes the parents who support their sons and daughters in the decision they make. Not to mention, the terrific husbands and wives who endure the hardships and separations!! Most especially, to Mrs. B and Mrs. Taco for sharing you guys, even after you got home.
I'm sorry and will apologize to your readers in advance if I encourage your pet troll. I was planning to ignore the dickless wonder, but then I started laughing at his comment. Cpl M and Capt B the same guy? I gotta email the Cpl. LOL He's gonna LOVE this one B.:) He'll consider this a GREAT HONOR and it is gonna totally make his day!
Posted by: Mrs. Diva | August 22, 2006 at 09:48 AM
Willy,
What's the matter? Don's memory hurts so you have to be mean to someone else? I'd suggest you go fight your battles where you won't get hurt.
Remember, its just me drinking with you every time you start, and secretly, I'm laughing at you because you don't have the manners or the brains God gave a goat. No wonder Don wanted you to shutup.
Subsunk
Posted by: Subsunk | August 22, 2006 at 10:16 AM
WW,
Let's get one thing straight. I know MANY Marines who served with the Captain in Iraq, many superior to him in rank, so now you're calling not only Capt B a liar, you're calling Taco (Major) a liar, your calling several Lieutenant Colonels liars, several Colonel's, and a certain Major General, oops, I think he's a Lieutenant General now, liars as well. Hmmm, did all those people get together and say "Hmmm, let's tell Samantha that Cpl B is really a Capt. Ha! Ha! Wouldn't that be funny!?!" Yea, I'm pretty sure those people have more important things to do. You can't even get your so called facts straight. One thing you don't know about the Marines is that MOS doesn't mean a thing in war. Everyone here has corresponded with Marines whose job was "food services", "aircraft maintenance", or "administrative." THEY ALL PULL PATROLS. WE ALL KNOW THIS, but you haven't even bothered to get to know about the people you're harrassing. GO TELL SOMEONE CAPT B IS A LIAR WHO DOESN"T KNOW HIM AND THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM.
This one comment of yours destroyed any credibility (lol) you may have had, any hope of making your points. You're nothing but a liar, so therefore you think everyone else behaves as you do.
If you have a problem with the President then take it up with him, not the Warriors who would, at any moment, give their lives for your worthless piece of flesh.
Did I give you enough hate to get you through your day? Hope so.
Okay everyone, kick my butt for feeding the troll. I deserve it.
Sam
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Posted by: Samantha West | August 22, 2006 at 10:17 AM
Jeez Sam you are cute when you are ticked.... long as you never get ticked at me.
We all know Capt B is just who he is. We all respect him and feel good about him and the other Marines.
What this column does to WW is the same thing tossing water on the Wicked Witch does ..... it melts him. It showes him for what he is .. weak vulnerable and pathetic.
I say we vote him off the island.
Posted by: jim b | August 22, 2006 at 11:20 AM
I wish there were more moms like you, Mrs455. To stand behind your wonderful boy and encourage him to excel at whatever career choice he's made, even if it is incredibly hard and dangerous, takes REAL COURAGE! I salute your bravery.
OORAH! and Semper Gratus!
Posted by: GunnNutt | August 22, 2006 at 11:24 AM
Mrs445 and JimB - I'd like to point you to www.recruitparents.com to meet other parents in your child's platoon once they get to boot and all kinds of great links for parents whose kids are in DEP, boot, mct/soi, mos school. We, as parents of Marines, have this wonderful resource. There's nothing like it for the other services.
And I do apologize, Captain, for hijacking the comments, but I try to talk up the Marine Parents site up every chance I get; it's a lifesaver for parents and wives/girlfriends in the 'early days' of their journey into "Corps Space".
WW - maybe you haven't heard the phrase "every man a rifleman"? My son's MOS is 3521 - a mechanic - he keeps the Hummers and the 7 tons moving. But he can still shoot sharpshooter and has had Marine Combat Training. EVERY Marine, regardless of MOS is trained to move to infantry at a moment's notice. Please, take a moment to educate yourself; your ignorance is showing.
Posted by: Karla (threadbndr) | August 22, 2006 at 01:32 PM
Hey idiots: Get it through your heads that "Capt B" isn't a captain. He/she/it is a corporal who hasn't stepped foot in Iraq. Had he done so, he'd have gotten an apology for my harsh words. Not for any words posted here, but for some words in an exchange of e-mails.
Yes, I know the phrase, "every marine a rifleman." Big deal. That's no different than some civilian who goes deer hunting on weekends. The chest-pounding here is cheesy and stupid, and the underlying cowardice is thick enough to cut with a knife.
If Israel's enlisted reservists can screw up the cojones to call bullsh!t on their political and military leaders who messed up the Lebanon invasion, you'd think that this country's "brave" military personnel could summon the courage to tell the truth about the Liar-in-Chief who has done much, much worse in Iraq. But no. You and they are too scared.
Army Lawyer knows that I never promised him anything. True to form, he keeps lying. The truth is that I refused to give him a CV, because I prefer not to break anonymity on the Internet. People are just too crazy.
Love the Iwo Jima statue pic at the top of this blog. Especially given that the blogger is a desk-jocket wannabe whose only injuries have been paper cuts. Something tells me that marines who've seen action would piss all over him and anyone else who'd so casually toss away the lives of OTHER PEOPLE for nothing at all.
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 02:41 PM
p.s.: Gotta love Gomer's pic at the top. So, "captain," do you wear all that stuff when you're sprinting between the copying machine and the filing cabinet? Watch out for the toner; I hear it's a real b!tch to remove from your cammis.
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 02:44 PM
Oh, and one more thing:
http://tinyurl.com/ma7k
Corporal, go tell THOSE GUYS who great it is that your idiot Fuhrer yanked them back into the Marine Corps so they can be shipped off the Iraq to serve as targets in someone else's practice.
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 03:07 PM
Wilsson (WW)
dude, youre loosing it (lost it). Dont you remember the post below when you tried to stir shit up before on my blog and someone hacked into your email?? Dude you dont even remember where you have been...or are going.(I pulled this from your last visit)
Thank you for your vivid description of what you are going through. It reminds me of why, even though I don't support the Iraq War, I hold absolutely none of this against our troops in the field. You don't get to pick your deployments. I wish you success (whatever that really is) and a safe return. You are an American in harm's way, and no matter how I feel about the big picture when it comes to each of you I regard you as one of my own and I worry about you every day.
Wilson Kolb | | Email | 11.04.05 - 11:02 pm | #
wilsonkolb@comcast
http://willypolitical.blogspot.com/
Now quit being a window licker and buy a calendar, you know you want one!
Capt B....out
Posted by: Capt B | August 22, 2006 at 03:24 PM
Oh, it's Wilson! Man, you've changed dude - you used to start off all passive/aggresive 'n stuff but now you're just "aggresive". I think it's time to find a new shrink. They can fix what ails ya if you just take the meds. I'm just sayin...
Posted by: GunnNutt | August 22, 2006 at 03:43 PM
Wow what a whack job. Way to dust him off CAPTAIN. Want to use my trash can or do you have one next to your copier? You're the BEST, Capt' B.
Posted by: Sammy D | August 22, 2006 at 04:00 PM
Willy......Whistle...whistle......
C'mon boy, come back to play (WW) its ok, we will through the ball for ya!!! Whistle, whistle. He must be busy ordering calenders.
Posted by: Capt B | August 22, 2006 at 04:05 PM
Capt, in all your super secret emails with the troll doll, did he by chance mention if WW really does stand for wee willy?
BTW, I think the Mrs is gonna be mightily upset to learn she went to sleep last night with a Capt and woke up with a Cpl! (unless she's the one who demoted you)
Posted by: Mrs. Diva | August 22, 2006 at 04:22 PM
Oh MAN, CJ is in on it, Cpl. M's new wife is in on it, Capt. B's supposed family is in on it, Taco is in on it, I'm in on it, SK's in on it... it's a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!! All these people are in on the joke. I bet CJ will be surprised to find out that Capt. B is Cpl M, especially since he, me, and SK ALL met Capt. B in DC. Cpl M's wife will be QUITE surprised to find out that she's REALLY married to a captain...or is it that the captain's wife is gonna have to cut back her spending cuz she's really married to a Cpl? Oh shit, I lost track of stuff. That's what happens when them Vast Right Wing Conspriracirists (is that a word?) get to planning ops just to confuse WWs out there.
Posted by: LL | August 22, 2006 at 04:40 PM
You know, when I was little, there was a boy in the neighborhood..the neighborhood bully... who made fun of me. He'd make me sad, angry and hurt. Mom told me that was his intention. She said to ignore him because by responding negatively to him, I was giving him exactly what he wanted. She said eventually he'd leave me alone if I ignored him. Well, he HATED it when I ignored him. He'd get even more hostile in order to get my attention. But, I perservered, and he eventually left me alone. This advice works for adults as well. We should try it!!
Posted by: seaurchin | August 22, 2006 at 05:11 PM
You want to start publishing e-mails, do ya? Two can play that game, "Capt B," you lying little worm.
Okay, since the so-called "captain" -- who has not stepped foot in Iraq, is actually a corporal and who has a non-combat MOS that has exposed him to nothing more than paper cuts -- won't come clean on his lies, I'll give everyone a copy of the e-mail exchange we had a while back. Except that time he called himself "Cpl M."
How do I know "Capt B" and "Cpl M" are the same person? Because in this comment thread the so-called captain mentioned (well, lied about) a so-called "apology" that I made. The only time I've come close to such a thing was in an exchange of e-mails between myself and "Cpl M," an exchange that "Capt B" referenced in this thread.
Here is the relevant part of the exchanges:
ME TO CAPT/CPL:
Have you been, or are you currently deployed in, Iraq or Afghanistan? If so, I have something else to say of a completely non-political nature. Please let me know.
CPL/CAPT TO ME:
I have not gone, through no fault of my own. Bare with me, and I'll
explain.
I went off to boot camp in Aug of 2002. I obviously can't hit the sand without boot and my job training. I spent a little bit of extra time making it through the "recruit pipeline" to the fleet because of the time of year I went to boot camp. We had Thanksgiving right after I graduated boot camp so I was given extra time at home. I then had Christmas right at the end of MCT so I was again given extra time. Then I was delayed starting school because there were a ton of people waiting because of the holiday season. I was in the fleet by early March 2003. The first big shipping happened while I was in my job school so I obvious couldn't go on that one. I had barely gotten to the fleet when we started bombing Baghdad. My MOS when I first came in was admin. A strong majority of admin people don't work at small unit level. Most of them are at headquarters level of the Division, Logistics Group, Air Wing, or Base. Since we are a headquarters element and we are highly consolidated, not many admin people go to begin with. All admin people do in Iraq is send work back to the rear for action. Marines deploy based on what coast they are on. One year east coast goes, the next west coast goes. Wash, rinse, repeat. ...
ME TO CAPT/CPL:
Had you been deployed you'd have gotten a groveling apology. Given that you haven't been deployed you get a milder one, which is this: I don't hold enlisted and junior officers responsible for the policy decisions that got the country into the war.
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 06:08 PM
Oh, and how do we know that this so-called Capt (who called himself a Cpl) in an e-mail to me, referenced that apology earlier in this comment thread?
For those of you who are too lazy or stupid to find it, I'll reprint the so-called "Capt"'s comment above:
"Last time you commented here you crawled back to me in an email to me apologizing and the like ..."
So: The "Capt" mentions an "apology" which was not particularly apologetic. And he mentions an e-mail sent after my last posting here. The only e-mail exchange I've had on this issue with anyone since I was last at this site was the one I've posted above, i.e., the one with Cpl M posing as Capt B.
Maybe I shouldn't be surprised. After all, if you support this Lying Fraud who's been sending everyone but yourselves to their death, who can be surprised that Capt B is actually a desk jockey corporal?
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 06:27 PM
Dang......the jig is up you got me, Im a Cpl...........Your a freaking lune. You got me confused with somone else weirdo. If that wasnt your email to me then how did I have your email address and web site?? Go to http://shepherdaway.blogspot.com and go to the November 4th and see all of your wacko entries............now go hang yourself!
Posted by: Capt B | August 22, 2006 at 06:50 PM
Wow, I'm happy to see you've kept your word to me, WW. You said you would move on from hurassing the military types. Way to lie.
For the record. I am not Capt B. There are pictures of Capt B from the MilBlogging Conference before I even busted into the milblogging scene. There are also pictures of me from my reenlistment on the internet. Search Soldier's Perspective and you'll find them. Capt B and I look nothing a like. At all. Well, maybe except we have the same military style hair cut, but look around a Marine base and you'll see that same haircut THOUSANDS of times.
Capt B, sir. I'm sorry this tool of a troll has moved on from ASP to here. Permission to waste the troll, sir?
Posted by: Cpl M | August 22, 2006 at 06:51 PM
Cleared hot.......no worries warrior, feel sorry for him.
Posted by: Capt B | August 22, 2006 at 06:56 PM
You're on CRACK, WW!!! I've emailed with BOTH Capt. B AND Cpl. M and they are 2 distinctly different men. AND I've met Capt. B in person and 1--there's NO way he just joined in Aug 2002, 2--I know his REAL NAME and Cpl. M's, 3--Capt B is about 10 years older than the Cpl, 4--YOU'RE ON CRACK!!
Posted by: LL | August 22, 2006 at 06:57 PM
WW, I gotta ditto LL here and continue on. #5 Cpl M uses proper punctuation and spell check:) #6 Cpl M has NO hard drive or RAM problems that we're aware of, #7 I have never sent packages to Cpl M at an FPO addy #8 You ARE on crack!!
Posted by: Mrs. Diva | August 22, 2006 at 07:04 PM
W.W. I'm ignoring you today, too.
Posted by: Karen I. | August 22, 2006 at 07:15 PM
I think Private, Sargeant, Captain Corporal, Major, and General etc. are all nice ranks (I like Captain, myself) since they are the ranks of the troops who in reality do more for us than our friends or family do. When I become the token civilian in the 2008 or 9 calendar, I am not going to sign one for WW. In fact, as a condition of posing I will insist that nobody sell him one. To clarify the issue further I will donate the extra calendars (part of my negotiated pay, don't forget)to church ladies who can not afford them and I don't think WW is a church lady.
Posted by: Wang the Second, Civilian Captain Troop Supporter | August 22, 2006 at 07:26 PM
Okey dokey, "Corporal," then how did "Captain B" happen to mention a so-called "apology" e-mailed after I last posted here? That e-mail exchange we had was the ONLY e-mail conversation I have had about the Iraq War since I posed here.
Oops, there was another one. Someone to whom I had sent a box of stuff wrote back to me to thank me for it and ask what gift he could give me in return. I wrote back and said that he should work to get the U.S. out of Iraq, or if he didn't see it the same way I did, then he should give what he'd have spent on a gift either to other deployed military personnel or to some other non-political charity.
The so-called "Captain" couldn't have been referring to that e-mail, because I didn't send it to him and the recipient is neither a captain nor a marine.
So riddle me this, Cpl. Batman: How did the so-called Captain, "sir," come to mention an e-mail with the word "apology" in it?
Nice try, liars. You're the same person, and my money says that neither one of you was, is or ever will be a marine. You're just ONE bullshitting wannable right-wingnut idiot.
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 07:33 PM
Oh, and by the way, Captain Wannabee, or Cpl. Mofo, or Pvt Pyle or whatever you are, the one posting you cited here was an early one on this blog. I posted it before realizing that you were lying about your identity. It wasn't my "last posting" here like you claim, and it wasn't an apology.
I know that none of you people care about the truth, just like you don't care about your country or what it stands for, but here goes: I don't hold the war against the enlisted or the junior officers. Not even the field-grade deployed. They do what they're told. I hold it against your Lying Fuhrer, and all the liars like the phony "captain" who spin their lies on-line and elsewhere.
It's bad enough that you're a knee-jerk robot for the Liar-in-Chief, but posing as a deployed marine and using the insignia, uniforms and true heroism of those who came before you is as low as it gets. I'd tell you to be ashamed, but shame is one thing you haven't got.
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 07:46 PM
Captain B, at this point, I advise you to stop engaging this man. I went and reread the comments at the blogspot site and he was trying to get you to reveal your name, rank, and serial number. He is trying to provoke you into providing enough information so that he can track you down. Now, you KNOW I got that .50 cal at your back, but best off if you consider contacting this man's internet service provider and cite the new internet harassment law and ask them to intervene. He could lose internet access and if he continues to harass using an "anonymous" method, he could be prosecuted under VAWA signed in 2006 which states:
"Whoever...utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet... without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person...who receives the communications...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
Posted by: LL | August 22, 2006 at 08:07 PM
OMG WW!
Half of everyone here has met the Captain. Most of us have written to him and sent him stuff in Iraq. I guess he faked his Iraq postal address, that's why the packages weren't returned.
What part of WE KNOW HIM don't you get? He's not some phantom blogger that no one has met. This blog started because of his deployment to Iraq.
Oh WW, this is fun! Don't quit being a jerk!!!!
I have to stop reading this, it is distracting me from Guadacanal and all the numbered hills on Tulagi...Anyone got an accurate map?
jim b, besides the fact that you're a sweetie, you fall into the "First Class, Warrior Class." I never get ticked at our First Class. Now I have been known to scold once in a while...Remember LtCol X? He got a very scolding email from me after his little tirade.
WW, face it baby, you will never be the Captain no matter how hard you try. Only a few Marines are born each year and you're not one of them.
Well, off to WWII land, this is so addicting though.
Sam
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Posted by: Samantha West | August 22, 2006 at 08:07 PM
p.s.: Now that the Iraq disaster has lasted nearly as long WW2, we see a Republican or two oh-so-gently suggesting that George W. Bush is an incompetent, idiotic liar. Let's see you phonies call THIS guy unpatriotic.
http://tinyurl.com/guade
Oh, and I see that the guy he appeared with, a Republican senator from Ohio, now says he never would have voted for the resolution to use force if the Fuhrer hadn't lied. What a joke. DeWine is saying that only because he hears some political footsteps behind him.
You wingnuts have no courage and you couldn't tell the truth if your lives depended on it. And you're perfectly happy to see more people, including young American military personnel, sent into that hopeless meat grinder.
Cowards! You, not the ones sweating their nuts off in Baghdad. YOU.
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 08:09 PM
Hey LL, all I can say is this: "Bring it on." Capt/Cpl/Gomer Wannabee has a public website where he/she/it solicits comments. What, someone's going to prosecute me for leaving comments?
Well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at your stupidity, should I?
Posted by: WW | August 22, 2006 at 08:53 PM
"I know that none of you people care about the truth, just like you don't care about your country or what it stands for.."
Correction: You don't know anything about me, or about most of the people here.
"You wingnuts have no courage and you couldn't tell the truth if your lives depended on it."
So, why are you wasting your time and energy posting here? You know what really burns me, WW? I spent over 20 years defending your right to spew such venom on people you don't even know who have done nothing to you. They just have different political views. But, that's America. So, opine away. Just remember that just because you CAN do something, does not mean you SHOULD.
Posted by: | August 22, 2006 at 09:19 PM
WW states: The truth is that I refused to give him a CV, because I prefer not to break anonymity on the Internet. People are just too crazy.
Oh the irony... LMAO!
WW go crawl back into the hole you came from.
Posted by: gypsy | August 22, 2006 at 09:26 PM
I don't know about GunnNutt but now I'M dizzy and I ain't been nowhere near a stoag.
WW - (wee willy???) I don't know who you think you're talking to but me and my multiple personalities all think YOU'RE CERTIFIABLY NUTS.
The Captain would like nothing better than to keep blasting your sorry ass from here to eternity, but WE want you to leave him alone so he can play with US. Now shoo ... before The Cat pounces on your winkie.
Posted by: Sammy D | August 22, 2006 at 10:01 PM
Forgot I saved the email chain between me and WW. What he didn't bother to post was the last paragraph on the last email he sent me. I'll go ahead and put it here.
I'm not in the mood to talk politics at the moment.
Had you been deployed you'd have gotten a groveling
apology. Given that you haven't been deployed you get
a milder one, which is this: I don't hold enlisted and
junior officers responsible for the policy decisions
that got the country into the war.
"In fact, I have spent quite a bit of my own time and money supporting troops in the field. I only talk politics on political websites, and like the right-wingers I wind up saying stupid shit. It goes in a cycle and then I quit for a while. I'm a quit mode and I'm going to stay there for a while."
Quit mode over, WW?
Posted by: Cpl M | August 22, 2006 at 10:10 PM
Yo Willy (squawk) Willy ya copy? Dude ya there?? Lights on??? EVER??? Why (squawk) doncha pick on (squawk) me? I'm FREAKIN' REAL, man. AND (squawk) I tell some whopp(squawk)ers now 'n then. AND (squawk) gasp wheeze, I voted for THE DUDE (squawk) man. TWICE !!! Yeah man, the DUDE (squawk) our commander in chief.
Yo Willie (squawk)Huh? awwwwwwwwww man (squawk) aww c'mon don't cry...(squawk)
Posted by: (squawk) Tony | August 22, 2006 at 10:12 PM
"That e-mail exchange we had was the ONLY e-mail conversation I have had about the Iraq War since I posed here."
WW, since you posed here? HA! Finally you said something truthful! And for the record, LL is anything but dumb. She actually is citing a very real law about harrassing comments on blogs by "anonymous or unidentified persons". Now we might be unidentified to you, but Capt B knows who ALL of us are. Since it's his blog, this only applies to you. Call us stupid, but I suggest you study the law. It was explained to me very carefully by a brilliant attorney who used it himself.
Posted by: Mrs. Diva | August 22, 2006 at 10:41 PM
From Capt/Cpl/Gomer:
"I reenlisted back in May and changed jobs to one that has a higher chance of deployment. I found out on the 28th of July that I am going overseas to Iraq in February. I haven't posted about this on ASP so please keep quiet on that. I'll announce it when things are a bit more solid and I know exactly what is going on."
Posted by: WW | August 23, 2006 at 01:14 AM
Capt/Cpl/Gomer is a fraud, just like his Liar-in-Chief. He uses the insignia, uniforms and heroism of marines to advance a political point of view. He's a phony and a coward, and deserves the scorn of every real patriot. He hates his country, everyone who has ever served it and everything it has ever stood for.
Posted by: WW | August 23, 2006 at 01:18 AM
I'm ignoring WW today, too.
Posted by: Karen I. | August 23, 2006 at 02:47 AM
Karen, liars always ignore the truth. The only answers any of you people have had here is to attack me personally. That says that you are too stupid and dishonest to come back with any facts. Just like your lying so-called president, who like you hates his country, its people and everything they stand for.
When did you become a lying coward who hates America so much that you will support a FAKER who runs an internet site with the goal of convincing people to send OTHERS to their deaths? What kind of lying, cowardly scum are you?
Posted by: WW | August 23, 2006 at 03:50 AM
By the way, Captain/Corporal/Gomer, you can stop trying to spam my Yahoo e-mail box. Ever since I posted here on Tuesday, I've suddenly gotten hundreds of spam messages.
They're easy to clear out. Take about 20 seconds. But I just thought I'd let you know that you can stop doing it now, you phony coward.
Posted by: WW | August 23, 2006 at 03:54 AM
WW, if you have a problem, let's get it lined out. Stop spamming Capt B's site and deal with me since you think I'm really the one behind this site, which I'm not.
Posted by: Cpl M | August 23, 2006 at 06:56 AM
WW (does that stand for "With Watada", the subversive officer refusing deployment to Iraq?), you are so transparent. Where do I start?
First of all, administrative or not, every Marine and Soldier have their place in this war on terror. Without our administrative folks, the brave servicemen would never get their awards. Their pay would be crippled with families left hungry. Without the administrative guys and gals, bullets wouldn't be ordered and vehicles would cease to operate. It takes ten "administrative" people to support just one front line grunt. Without them, he is no good.
I can only speculate that you're a disgruntled Girl Scout who never got to see "real action" from your scout leader. However, you're not that special either. For every one of you, there 100 others who support what we do as desk jockeys or trigger pullers.
Posted by: CJ | August 23, 2006 at 09:56 AM
I see someone's off their meds! Or did someone forget to lock up at the mental hospital?
Posted by: linda s. | August 23, 2006 at 10:23 AM
Wow! I've had a headache for 13 days now and I thought to unwind reading some interesting post from/to a very interesting group. Now I have a headache and the room is spinning from the BS dripping. The only solution to days like this is for the good people of this country to finally pass that law where it is illegal to be stupid. WW-you are on the list.
Posted by: Cheryl Ann | August 23, 2006 at 01:35 PM
Capt/Cpl Gomer, thanks for not spamming my Yahoo mailbox anymore. It really was pretty juvenile. Just the sort of thing you'd expect from some Cpl Wannabee.
One more thing: There's also no need to assume the identity "Black Ops" and send me that e-mail demanding "proof" of your fraud. All the proof you need is right here in the comment thread. If you can't figure it out, then all I can say is that someone is smart to keep you as a junior enlisted man in an admin MOS.
You'd better hope you never get deployed in combat, because with your brains you'll last about 10 minutes.
Posted by: WW | August 23, 2006 at 02:33 PM
Wow, after being offline for a couple of weeks, I come here to read what's been happening and get a bunch of garbage from somebody named WW. Sheesh. I agree with the others who "know" Capt. B...he's the real deal!!! A Marine through and through...ask anybody at anysoldier.com!
Posted by: Karen | August 23, 2006 at 02:41 PM
*snickers*
And now his delusion has been passed onto my good buddy BlackOps! Oh shit, this is like that batshit crazy woman Deb Frisch. The left gets loonier and loonier and sink deeper and deeper into their paranoid delusions until they end up in COURT.
http://www.blogpi.net/laffaire-goldfrisch-iii-we-all-knew-this-was-coming
Posted by: LL | August 23, 2006 at 03:03 PM
Sorry, Karen, but I've laid it all out above. You might be too stupid to figure it out, so here's the simplest version that even a moron-ette like you ought to be able to comprehend:
"Capt B" is the same person who sent me private e-mails purpoting to be from a "Cpl M." How do I know? Because in this very comment section, "Capt B" mentioned a detail that only "Cpl M" could have known.
This leaves the following possibilities:
1. A real captain is posing as a corporal. Now tell me just how likely you think that one is.
2. A real corporal with no Iraq experience, and in an admin MOS, is posing as a captain. I give it a 50/50 chance.
3. A rightwingnut civilian who has never been in the USMC is posing as both a captain AND a corporal. I give that a 50/50 chance.
So, it's Door #2 or Door #3. Even if I'm wrong and it's Door #1, we're still dealing with a phony liar here. Which, given that this whole thing emanates from the Liar-in-Chief to begin with, comes as little surprise.
Posted by: WW | August 23, 2006 at 03:05 PM
Seriously. We are two very different people. There are countless people here that have already stated that and there are countless others at A Soldier's Perspective saying the exact same thing.
Posted by: Cpl M | August 23, 2006 at 03:26 PM
Cpl M, brother, don't waste your time. You know the deal, I know the deal. It's the loons out there like WW who do this to get things stirred up. Simply ignore him. Like a case of the clap he will go away!
Semper
WW-Pls keep visiting your making me a shit ton of cash!
Posted by: Capt B | August 23, 2006 at 05:07 PM
Capt sweetie, even the clap needs meds to make it go away:)
Posted by: Mrs. Diva | August 23, 2006 at 05:30 PM
Well, "Capt B"/"Cpl M"/Gomer Pyle, I knew there had to be a reason, i.e., a "shit-ton of cash." It's always that way with the so-called patriots who milk the wallets of veterans and their families, isn't it?
You phony, gutless coward. You have no business making money off of the insignia, uniforms and heroism of REAL marines who actually faced combat and laid down their lives for the country they loved -- a concept you will never be familiar with. Enjoy your cash.
Posted by: WW | August 23, 2006 at 05:42 PM
Roger that, sir. Keeping the Kevlar on to avoid catching his disease.
Posted by: Cpl M | August 23, 2006 at 06:19 PM
Cpl M, doesn't it feel a little weird talking to yourself, let alone calling yourself "sir?" That must get confusing.
Posted by: WW | August 23, 2006 at 06:37 PM
Dang, I hate to acknowledge the troll. In my opinion (which I've posted at a bunch of Milblogs where he spews), wee willie's mama didn't pay enough attention to him so he's trying to get attention by being a total ass. Creep!
Posted by: MissBirdlegs in AL | August 23, 2006 at 09:16 PM
Hey, I understand that the Liar-in-Chief has fallen below 50% even in Alabama. Now THAT tells you something.
Posted by: WW | August 23, 2006 at 09:31 PM
*yawn* Argument got pretty tired pretty quick.
Posted by: Cpl M | August 23, 2006 at 10:13 PM
WW is just upset about that Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy. He's been wanting to join the military for years, but that gay thing is keeping him back.
Additionally, WW felt betrayed when he found out that Brokeback Mountain wasn't a documentary and actually contained actors.
Should I start signing my comments, MSG CJ?
Posted by: CJ | August 23, 2006 at 10:20 PM