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Anon

It is a disgrace that HC refuses to meet with the Gold Star Moms. I won't forget it on election day, and I will encourage all of my friends and family to do the same.

Sandi

Gary, according to snopes.com this is not quite true. Here's the link to the appropriate snopes comments. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/goldstar.asp

Linda

Captain B, this is an urban legend that can be discounted by referring to the Goldstar mothers website. It is a shame that so many people believe such a horrendous thing could happen. Please check out the sites that link Senator Clinton to the Goldstar Mothers.

linda s.

Since there seems to be several Lindas posting, it might be helpful if you also list your last name initial or state.

Laura, Marine mom from Ohio

The Gold Star Mothers deserve the utmost respect. I enjoy being a mother of a Marine and pray for all families of our troops.
As for Hillary Clinton, I have seen her show disrespect to our president on national tv. It is her right if she does not agree with our president on issues but there is no need for rudeness and disrespect.

Sue

It does not matter if this story is exagerated or not. The most important point is that we pay attention and never ever allow the Clintons to regain control of the White House. Both Hillary and Bill have continually shown contempt for our military. Insightful information and first hand accounts confirming it can be found in the writings of Buzz Patterson........ Since his military retirement in 2001, Buzz has emerged as a vitally important voice for the American military and national security.

As the author of New York Times best sellers, Dereliction of Duty: How Bill Clinton Compromised America's National Security, and his recent release, Reckless Disregard: How Liberal Democrats Undercut Our Military, Endanger Our Soldiers, and Jeopardize Our Security, Buzz has established himself as a respected, frequently requested voice for national security and military affairs.

He is the national security columnist for the respected conservative weekly Front Page Magazine and can be seen and heard on talk shows and news events across the country. He hosts "The Buzz Cut," a weekly radio show for the RighTalk Radio Network streaming live and in replays at www.rightalk.com. His new book War Crimes: The Left's Campaign to Eliminate the Military and Lose the War on Terror debuts with Crown Forum in September of 2006.

As a career Air Force pilot seeing combat duty in far flung locales such as Grenada, Bosnia, the Persian Gulf, Somalia and Rwanda, and serving as military aide at the right hand of President Bill Clinton, he has impeccable military bona fides. As the Air Force Aide to Clinton, he carried the "Nuclear Football."

Cathy

Captain B- to beat a dead horse- Sandi and Linda are correct. This story is not factual. The first time I received this e-mail I absolutely lost it- I went on a tirade at work that was unstoppable. After I calmed down, I checked Snopes and found that this was fiction.

Sue- I must disagree with your first statement- it DOES matter whether or not the story is exaggerated or not. Let the liberals fabricate and pontificate. As conservatives, we are above that and it is our responsibility to base our arguments on fact, not fiction. "The truth shall set you free!" Besides, the left gives us so much real garbage that reveal their true character. All your other points-- right on the money! Keep up the fight.

Semper Gratus.

Samantha West

Well, I have always said that if Hillary ran for President that I would have to quit my job and put all of my energy into making sure she didn't win....

texasdillo

I do not care if Gold Star Mom account is accurate or not. Hillary is left of Upchuck Schumer. She is as dangerous to our National Security as was hubby. Remember the beast of Bosnia who bombed a country to divert attention away from stains on Monica's dress? The blame for us not being able to prosecute war lies at Clintons feet. We are down from 18 divisions to 10. Under Clinton we let Osama take out embassies and the Cole. Saddam made videos of his staff laughing about how stupid Americans were to elect such a pussy to lead a world power. If we do not deal with situations in Iraq, Iran, Syria, and North Korea we will be hit in the homeland. We still have the capacity to bomb Iran and North Korea before they acquire delivery systems for nukes. If jihadist get nukes who are we going to punish? The monkey in Iran is a insane POS and talking 14th century Islamic views off convert or die. I doubt Hillary would want to wear a burka. Is 50% plus of America so deluded that they think Jimmy Carter view of talk them to death will work? Has democracy become so weak that we give into UN idiocy? 2500 plus American kids beleived in protecting our freedom. If 60% think we are doing the wrong thing screw em. The 40% of us that are sane need to get out of the big cities.

Sandi

Laura, Marine Mom from Ohio - I agree with you 100%. Please thank your son for his service on our behalf and accept my appreciation for the sacrifice that you and the rest of your family on making.

To everyone else - I merely pointed out that the Clinton/Gold Star Mom story is inaccurate. My purpose was NOT to support Hilary Clinton in any way. As a matter of fact, if she does run for President I will do everything in my power to see that she DOES NOT get elected. One President Clinton was one too many!

Cheryl

Well, we've laid the Gold Star Moms story to rest. What about the rest of it?? Are they billing the taxpayer for the lodging of those who have to protect their sorry asses? I have one question - does the Atlantic Ocean affect the inhabitants on the east coast? How can you explain Kennedy and Clinton getting elected? Of course I'm from the land that elects Boxer and Feinstein, so I should just shut up!!

Sandi

According to this link http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/landlord.asp the rest of the story is also false.

Donna, Los Osos, CA

Sandi..never shut up!! I'm with you, and look where I'm from too...

While this story may be false, it was sure believable at first read because there is so much fodder about them that is true. As the Captain says..keep attacking!!No worries..just random bad intel.

Semper gratus,
Donna

You Must Be Kidding

I don't know how much this has actually been downplayed on the Snopes site... but I know for a fact that the Secret Service pays a portion of the utility costs at he NY home -- the SS check arrives in the same envelope as the Clinton's check... I know this to be true, because I used to work for ConEd...

Anita

Just an interesting side note . . .
did y'all know Clinton signed a new law before he left office that Presidents following him would no longer have lifetime SS protection for themselves/family? He and Hil will get it of course, but they are the last. It still amazes me they even have the ba__s to show their faces in public after all they have done over the years. What brass!!

WW

It speaks volumes that several posters in this thread don't care if the story was true, and that the marine who runs this site left it up on the site without a retraction.

The right wing really loves their lies.

WW

Capt B and his followers would rather spread lies. Here is the truth, from American Gold Star Mothers:

"At the time this allegation was made Senator Clinton was not even in her office. These allegations were not initiated by the Gold Star Mothers that Senator Clinton would not see them. This is a fabricated report picked up by an individual using the Gold Star Mothers as an instrument to discredit Senator Clinton.

"Four Gold Star Mothers and a Vietnam veteran made an appointment with Senator Clinton at a later date and were very well received. Photographs were made with Senator Clinton and she presented each one with a signed proclamation paying tribute to the American Gold Star Mothers.

"We regret any embarrassment this may have caused Senator Clinton and her staff and would like to move beyond this issue and continue the positive volunteer work which we willingly and graciously provide for the veterans and their families and support of other Gold Star Mothers. American Gold Star Mothers are a strong group of women who have sacrificed sons or daughters in conflicts to preserve the freedom that we enjoy. We do not need mischievous gossip and unfounded lies to promote our organization. Please help stop it now."

Esoterik

As to the last 2 post of WW, God Love Him, you have to give the man credit for his persistence. Yes, for the most part they are both irrelevant and trifling given the evident circumstances, but it is for that very reason I tend to be entertained by this individual who apparently makes no effort not to look a fool with his illogical attacks on conservatives.
This case in point, “It speaks volumes that several posters in this thread don’t care if the story was true…”
I guess I will have to update my “Liberal Speak” Glossary to the fact that 2 is interpreted as “several.” Of course I would also point out that the statements, “It does not matter if this story is exaggerated or not” and “I don’t care if the Gold Star Mom account is accurate or not,” when taken in context were not denials of the truth, nor proclamations that truth itself is immaterial, but rather that the inaccuracy of this story does not change in any substantive manner the fact that Hillary has been, is now, and forever will be a danger to this countries security holding as she does its military and by proxy its military personnel in total and undeniable contempt.
Now…. I count 4 posts prior to WWs, (making his pointlessly redundant), that point out that the Gold Star Moms story is inaccurate. “According to snopes.com this is not quite true,” “…this is an urban legend that can be discounted by referring to the Goldstar Mothers website,” “This story is not factual,” “pointed out that the Clinton/Gold Star Mom story is inaccurate.” Oh… and what is this? The link to the snopes article is given twice. I would not go so far as to call 4 “several,” but I would call it a “significant number” of posts highlighting and drawing attention to what is accurate.
So WW, in point of fact, there is nothing in this string to support your inflammatory and illogically prejudiced statements of, “The right-wing really loves their lies,” and “Capt B and his followers would rather spread lies.” It is exceedingly evident however, that you gleefully embrace misrepresentation and falsehood for the sake of weak argument, while we “right-wingers” openly seek to correct ourselves having no fear of seeing inaccurate information for what it is. Of course, I realize that is a concept beyond your grasp, but it’s not your fault. You are simply a victim of the “liberal” mindset that when caught quoting inaccuracies, simply seek to obscure and cloud the issues with meaningless and emotionally charge rhetoric, as opposed to taking responsibility for self censure.
As to “the Marine who runs this site left it up on the site without a retraction,” absolutely he did. It’s an honorable course of action, (yet another concept beyond your depth), allowing for discourse and the exposure of inaccuracy, which automatically amounts to a retraction. And by the way, while I will leave your poor sentence structure alone, you dishonor yourself by dishonoring those who stand to lose their lives to protect you, by failing to capitalize the name “Marine.”
To conclude, the only point to your postings is to vent your perpetual venom in a feeble and ineffectual attempt to upset as many people as you can. You have been great for comic relief, try better next time.

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